That was the old layout before the game decided to change everything related to gifting. Just haven’t had time to think about how to display a new layout. Personally not fond with any of the layouts right now, but as long as the information is there for people. I will try to come up with a new design later today.
We'll keep the +1 but only for items that are not universally liked/neutral/disliked by all. All universal gifts will be compiled into Gifting once we gather enough data. It'll be tough since the game is still in Alpha and anything can change unexpectedly.
I know some items like Power Stone are universally Liked by all, so these kinds of gifts will be placed under the universal list.
In the game, there are 5 taste categories: Love, Like, Neutral, Dislike, and Hate. This is why I included the first column to categorize them. Neutral is an invisible value since it's indefinite, and most NPCs will react neutrally to most items. I've only included it as a base for exceptions (as I mentioned in earlier comments).
Each category has been broken down even further according to value. There aren't actual terms or sections in the game that differentiate Favorites/+10s or other values. But it seems to be vital information since everyone will want to aim for +10s. I've also included a "Really Like" section for the +6 values, though I named it "Admire" because "Really Like" just doesn't flow with the rest.
As for Ginger, she will have her own design due to her unique trait.
I agree, one word is better than "Really Like", but I don't think "Admire" fit either, it's not a museum. Another term is needed. Though "Fond of" would fit better but is still 2 words... "Fancy" could be a nice word too.
I do not like the smileys, they make the page heavy and are unneeded. As long as the cells in the colomn for the reactions do NOT contain a line break putting the number under the word (because of page size, or many items in the next column) then it's fine and normalized, no need for excessive stuff.
Also, I think it would be interesting to put something like "The following table excludes all Universal gifts" on all character pages right before the table, I'll add it on Sam, tell me if it's ok after you check it.
Can you also add the picture/page for Diamond plz?
Excuse me for not replying yesterday. Decided to take a break for now.
Anyways, what word do you suggest for "Really Like"? Although, I feel using terms for values are not consistent throughout. Using terms not used in the game itself (Favorite, etc.) could cause confusion when it comes to completing a Preference table and/or editing itself. Even though the terms and values speak for itself, there is always a select group who don't quite understand.
I suggest something like this to display both the taste categories and the values. It takes the same amount of space as if it were to display the terms and values on the same line.
Most datamined files typically aren't named as they are in-game. Some items have completely different names, which can make locating an image harder than it seems. Just let me know if I uploaded the correct image, or send me an image of the item in-game for clarification.
Just verify the image and provide me the full item name so that I can rename the file to the standards.
Asset files in your "Portia Data" folder can be extracted using a Unity asset extractor.
Yup it's the correct image for Diamond, and the full name is also just Diamond.
Funny enough, I thought about the exact same thing for the Table.
But since they changed the Preferences layout again, I suggest to only list items that are listed in these 4 categories, all other items will usually gives +1 and doesn't appear in Preferences so they're not worth mentioning.
And maybe adding only 2 adequate smileys may not hurt as much as with 3.
I think we have reached an agreement on the design of the preference table. I do agree that Neutral gifts aren't necessary since a vast majority of items are neutral and would become too extensive to list. Anyways, I am pleased with the final revision.
I've been thinking about Neutral gifts, and I think we should keep it for now so that we can compile a list of items that we have actually tried. This way, we don't accidentally try the same item again.
Any character will only like (+2 and more) or dislike (-1 and less) items that are listed in the 4 categories of their Preferences window, adding a Neutral line to the table would just confuse people. Do you want to put ALL the other items in the +1 row?.
Adding a line before the preferences table to explain that all Neutral gifts (+1) are not listed.. would do just fine.
The problem is that people will try gifts that aren't listed on the table. I know the list is extensive, but there has to be another way to prevent people from wasting their time trying gifts that were Neutral (if they intend to help the wiki with the gifts section).
The only other way I can think of is adding the gifting data on the item pages themselves. And persuade people to put all the Neutrals on the item pages themselves. See Small Satchel for a draft of the gifting section. The list won't be as extensive because it lists the characters themselves. I don't intend to add the values on the item pages either, just the taste categories to keep it simple.
The second option is better. The title is actually centered, but for some reason, message walls don't center any texts inside tables. Besides, the text won't matter being inside the table if it's only a temporary solution.
I was looking at post with Plays and i was curous about play With Ginger... You are ably only to sit with her, for some reason Round Table and Drawing isn't working and there aren't more icons of actions.
and many relic : Old Parts & Data Disc, Power Stone, Gear, Spring, Copper Wire, Large Iron Bucket, Industrial Engine, Washing Machine, Carbon Fiber, Small Silicon Chip and I'm not sure if we sill find Lubricant, may be a delete item in Alpha 3.5x.
I tried playing it but I couldn't catch any animals after this patch. I could catch a majority before A3.5 but now it's not as responsive as it was (animals simply pass by despite roping them). So I gave up on it lol. Will try again when the game is modified to be a bit more responsive.
Oh ? I've juste made 15-20 test tonight and there's no pb for me, juste need to use the rope at the right time, and as you catch some, they run faster and faster ! tonight, my better score was 9 catch for 420 points :
4 cow (5 milk + 5 meat)
1 calf (1 meat + 1 meat)
2 horse (2 Fiber Plant + 2 Meat)
2 Sheep (2 Worn Fur + 2 Meat)
and 3 more meat that i can't explain... i may be for the 1st 4 in a row... realy can't find out why
I've also test to catch exactly 4 of a type for my previous message.
If you need some image to study the reward system, i have some ^^
Only problem is, the top navigation is only allowed 4 items (not including Explore and Discuss). This means one of them has to be eliminated to make room for this. Not sure which one to get rid of though.
Let me know if there are any users you think should be moderators of any sort, I'll trust your judgement there since I've not been able to be around and am thus out of the loop on who's around. Also, message wall doesn't actually reach me if I don't login, so that's why you never heard from me after posting on my message wall. Feel free to hit me up on discord or Steam. gamsii#3910 / gamsii
Thank you so much! I will do everything I can to take care of the wiki. Real life is important, so do take care. Hope to see you around in the future though.
If you don't mind, can I also have bureaucrat rights as well (or thereby have permission to request bureaucrat rights on Community Central)? That way, when potential editors can be promoted and you're not around, I can promote them myself.
In the images you extracted from the games asset files did you get any of the clothes from the Clothing Shop? I've combed thru what I extracted and the only icon I could find was the tier 3 pants. I can't even find the Work ClothsWork Pants icons for the Worktable.
Yes I did find them. They were all named "Marco clothes ###" for some reason. I haven't played the female version yet if they have a different set of clothes, but I uploaded them and renamed them according to what they are called in-game.
It follows the same file names as the other worktable icons, "PlugType 1" for Furnaces, "PlugType 2" for Civil Cutter, "PlugType 3" for Basic Skiver, etc. "PlugType 6" is probably another type of worktable, unreleased at the moment. As far as I remember, that icon didn't exist in Alpha 2.0, along with the grinder and blender icons.
We'll just have to wait and find out what and where it comes from.